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Newbie guy (Guest) (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 07:14 AM (Pacific)
"Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
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I have a question, Somewhere between doing the first few umpani quests and the first few trang quests, the trang found me out and I am not sure how. Here goes, First I started doing umpani quests, then went to Marten's bluff to get dead trang arm, while there allied with the trang, and completed up to kill the rapax assassin quest, got the mook alliance letter, went back to Umpani, did up to covert ops mission, got their mook alliance letter, then back to Arnika, stopped by and payed off He'li, went to mook, where I used the Trang letter, stole the chaos moliri, replaced it with the fake, then back to Trang to get my next mission and Bam Z'ant turns hostile, so I killed him, but I can't figure out how he found out what was going on, My party has consisted of Vi Domina, RFS-81, and my 6 adventurers the entire time. So, after fighting my way through lower marten's bluff, I went up grabbed the idol, and started killing breken for some exp. And I have already run into two groups in the swamp, savant troops, and trang assassins, who attack me claiming I have the chaos moliri, which i do . . . but, My next question is, are the umpani going to react hostile as well, is there someone else i need to pay off?

Yes, I was carrying the trang arm with me the whole time, is that is? I had not fought any trang up until Z'ant? I am too far along, taking it slow, range in lvl from 13 to 16, to turn back, just wondering who burned my doubleagent game plans???

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post.

Avid board reader,
new to Wiz 8 (best rpg, bar none)

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Llevram (5413 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 09:10 AM (Pacific)
1. "Pretty sure the arm is safe"
I am sure in one of my games, that I was a doubleagent, paid off he'li and kept the t'rang arm.

Some others have had the same experience you have had, so I wonder what it is. Maybe the clue book has clue?

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Newbie guy (Guest) (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 12:49 PM (Pacific)
2. "RE: Pretty sure the arm is safe"
The commisary sgt is a trang spy, and I used a commisary credit that I received as a reward for one of the umpani missions . . .
don't know for sure, that sounds like that could be it though, I had forgotten about that.

Anybody else use the commisary credit and not get found out???

Thanks

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Greyfax (Guest) (8 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 01:02 PM (Pacific)
3. "RE: Pretty sure the arm is safe"
I used the credit. I think the main thing is to pay off He'Li. I kept getting quests from each until they both asked me to go wipe out the other side, which I did not want to do. Turned out to be a good idea. Even though they order you to do something the game may present a better solution later.
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Horror Byte (Guest) (39 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 02:46 PM (Pacific)
4. "RE: Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
Its simple, if you are recruted and then buy the flag you need on the fisrt Trang mission your cover is lost, if you buy the flag first and then are recruited your cover is safe, another way to cover your cover ;) kill the merchant, but do it in interaktive mode (you know talk, give, buy and sell) if you do it outside that mode, there is a big risk of The Umpani gets hostile, but can you can kill merchant any time and report to recruting officer (figure that out yourself) and get a kick off the low level characters
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LittaGuy (Guest) (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 02:49 PM (Pacific)
5. "RE: Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
Not necessarily.

Two ways to get caught. One is He'Li who will extort you for cash to keep quiet.

The other is the T'Rang spy in the Umpani Base camp. Even if you accept the T'rang mission to obtain a flag first, if you kill the spy in the camp, you are safe (provided you pay off He'li

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Greyfax (Guest) (8 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-18-01, 04:57 PM (Pacific)
6. "RE: Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
I got the mission to get a flag and bought one before I joined the Umpani.

I paid off He'Li.

I talked to the spy and got the fake id from him.

I have never killed any T'Rang or Umpani.

They both still love me.

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DoubleAgent (Guest) (1 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-26-01, 02:16 AM (Pacific)
7. "RE: Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
I did not seems to have any problem with the double agent stuff.

I got the flag mission from the T'rang first and then I complete all the Umpani quest except the last one. Then I head over and completed all the T'rang quest (also except the last one) and they both love me. Never even talked to He'Li for a moment and therefore did not pay her anything.

But in the end I decided that I needed the extra xp and go back and complete the last Umpani quest and kill off the T'rang (I hate them from Wiz7 though they seems so mild in Wiz8) to get an extra 500k xp.

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KunarTraitor (Guest) (2 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-27-01, 11:32 PM (Pacific)
8. "RE: Doubleagent gets Burned . . . **spolier**"
Sgt. Kunar is a spy. If you go to Balbarak and ask him about Kunar he will ask you what about him. Respond with, "Kunar is a traitor". He will ask you for proof. You will need to have someone with high pickpocket skill try to PP Kunar. If you get his 'Fake' idea card show it to Balbarak. He talks to security and Kunar goes bye bye.

Not sure about He'li, have not gone back to Bluff to finish Trang quests just yet. Will do that soon though.

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KunarTraitor (Guest) (2 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Dec-27-01, 11:35 PM (Pacific)
9. "Whoops"
Just read a few responses above mine, looks like you can talk the pass out of him. I remember asking about the Trang and him saying something like they will rule the world or something, I didn't pursue that though. Check that path out, its probably safer for faction with him.
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