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Shogun (0 posts) Click to EMail Shogun Click to send private message to Shogun Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-18-04, 08:05 PM (Pacific)
"Kirijitsu - The art of the Critical Kill and Profession/Class change"
(sorry if this post appears twice but it didn't seem to post the first time, are these posts moderated before they appear?)

Does my Monk who I immediately changed professions to a priest with the intention to further change to a Valkyrie, pass on the ability to deliver a critical kill to these new professions?

I know I have to add some points to the skill for it to remain in the Academia skills list (which I have done), but is it definate (has it been proved?) that now my priest bashing away with her staff, and later my valkyrie with her sword/spear/who knows what?, will also be able to deliver a critical kill based on their Kirijitsu skill score?

I only ask because it has been said that reangers only have crit kill on ranged weapons!?
Does this mean the game looks at the class/profession and the type of weapon before applying the critical kill.
Or do Rangers have critical kill on all weapons, but supposedly only get given the skill because of their bow and arrow abilities...

Would appreciate any insights into this.
Cheers.

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mad god (4 posts) Click to EMail mad%20god Click to send private message to mad%20god Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-18-04, 10:33 PM (Pacific)
1. "RE: Kirijitsu - The art of the Critical Kill and Profession/Class change"
First, I know nothing about ranged criticals (not that I think that they never exist, but I just don't know).

KIA:
Monk or Ninja KIA = Kirijitsu/5 + 5
Other classes KIA = Kirijitsu/5


So, calculate your KIA. ;)

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Shogun (0 posts) Click to EMail Shogun Click to send private message to Shogun Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-18-04, 11:19 PM (Pacific)
2. "RE: Kirijitsu - The art of the Critical Kill and Profession/Class change"
Thanks Mad God, much appreciated.
Just wanted to be sure I wasn't class changing in vain...
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Scary (16 posts) Click to EMail Scary Click to send private message to Scary Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-19-04, 08:03 AM (Pacific)
3. "RE: Kirijitsu - The art of the Critical Kill and Profession/Class change"
>KIA:
>Monk or Ninja KIA
>= Kirijitsu/5 + 5

Aha! This explains why my monks and ninjas with "0" Kirijutsu are still able to score criticals. I suspected as much, but it's nice to have MG confirm it from the coding.

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Dragon2k (806 posts) Click to EMail Dragon2k Click to send private message to Dragon2k Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-19-04, 03:00 PM (Pacific)
4. "RE: Kirijitsu - The art of the Critical Kill and Profession/Class change"
that 5 comes from the Hands and Feet of a monk/ninja. when unarmed, a monk/ninja has a 5% critical hit chance, like some other weapons. however, a monk with a quarter staff and 0 kirijutsu won't get any criticals with it. the 5% kia chance is tied to the weapon here.
now, yes, Kirijustu is one of those skills, like Ninjutsu, that once a character has it, they can use it no matter what class they are.
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mad god (4 posts) Click to EMail mad%20god Click to send private message to mad%20god Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
May-20-04, 00:01 AM (Pacific)
5. "Sorry, Dragon2k, You art not quite right..."
The layout I mentioned is true regardless of what weapon character uses (including hand-to-hand "weapon").

If character uses weapon with KIA property, that KIA added to character's KIA.

Thus, Ninja with *Light Sword* and kirijutsu 100 will have: 100/5 + 5 + 10 (sword) = 35 KIA.
While Samurai with *Light Sword* and kirijutsu 100 will have: 100/5 + 10 (sword) = 30 KIA.

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sphynx (14 posts) Click to EMail sphynx Click to send private message to sphynx Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-05, 07:41 AM (Pacific)
6. "RE: Sorry, Dragon2k, You art not quite right..."
So, how does this effect the Ranger with a Bow who gets KIA's for being a ranger without Kirijitsu or arrows with an innate KIA? I think Samurai also get KIAs with edged weapons, without needing Kirijitsu. Any idea how these are added in?

Sphynx

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mad god (4 posts) Click to EMail mad%20god Click to send private message to mad%20god Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-21-05, 02:49 AM (Pacific)
7. "You can use my editor to check it out (Save File Viewer)"
LAST EDITED ON Jul-21-05 AT 02:50 AM (Pacific)

As far as I know. Rangers get +2 to ranged (bows & crossbows only) attacks.
Samurais get nothing special on edged weapons (they possess a plain Kirijitsu).

Edit: I meant +2 KIA

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sphynx (14 posts) Click to EMail sphynx Click to send private message to sphynx Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-25-05, 00:11 AM (Pacific)
8. "RE: You can use my editor to check it out (Save File Viewer)"
MadGod, was looking at your editor today and noticed that the Magic area doesn't work when you open a saved file.

I can see that I have 6 schools, and my MP/Regen rates, but not the spells themselves, and I assumed this would be so with the little check boxes above it... am I missing something?

Sphynx

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sphynx (14 posts) Click to EMail sphynx Click to send private message to sphynx Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-26-05, 00:45 AM (Pacific)
9. "RE: You can use my editor to check it out (Save File Viewer)"
>LAST EDITED ON Jul-21-05
>AT 02:50 AM (Pacific)

>
>As far as I know. Rangers
>get +2 to ranged (bows
>& crossbows only) attacks.
>Samurais get nothing special on edged
>weapons (they possess a plain
>Kirijitsu).
>
>Edit: I meant +2 KIA


Just found the place you were talking about, the View Game Information, and there it says that Rangers get x2 instead of +2. Is that a typo? x2 would be very cool, with her Kirijitsu at 100 already, that'd be a 42% chance with a Willow Arrow....

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