"Maximum AC - Just messin around"

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myrddin (24 posts) Sep-25-06, 09:34 PM (Pacific) "Maximum AC - Just messin around" I got to thinking about what would the maximum AC you could maybe legitimately get from skills and equipment - no spells. So lets say you make a thief - and once you get 100 stealth you switch him to fighter so he can wear best ac gear. So I made a test char and just cheated up the stats.. Elf thief->Warrrior 100 in stealth, speed, reflextion, snake speed, and shield. eq: Infinity Helm, Ebony plate (U & L), Mantis Boots & Gloves, Cloak of Many Colors, *Light* shied, and 2 Fey rings. W/ eq Dex is 105, Speed 125, Snake Speed 120, Stealth 125. Base AC: 45 Average AC: 59 I tried also w/ Mantis Boots but base and avg were same - so I kept the snake speed ones for the extra speed. Also I tried w/ Rings of Reflextion - but the Fey Rings gave me better output. If anyone wants to try their own and/or make suggestions let me know and Ill report the results. With that amount of AC - I wonder if ANYTHING can penetrate my thick hide.. hee hee.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around, Alex (Guest), 06:03 AM, Mar-13-07, (1) RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around, Scary, 04:00 AM, Mar-14-07, (2) Correct, Llevram, 11:58 AM, Mar-14-07, (3) RE: Correct, Alex (Guest), 06:43 AM, Mar-19-07, (4) RE: Correct, alisonb, 06:25 AM, May-30-07, (5) RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around, Avatar, 07:52 AM, Oct-14-07, (6) RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around, WizardryFan85, 07:05 AM, Apr-29-09, (7) RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around, Scary, 07:23 PM, May-06-09, (8)

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Alex (Guest) (11 posts) Mar-13-07, 06:03 AM (Pacific) 1. "RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around" Hmm You could try converting some RPCs to ninjas, arming them with some throwing stilettos, and irritating them into fighting you (pickpocketing them with someone who can't pickpocket would do). Drazic is a moderately high level ninja already. Then you can see whether auto penetrate works well.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scary (16 posts) Mar-14-07, 04:00 AM (Pacific) 2. "RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around" >You could try converting some RPCs >to ninjas, arming them with >some throwing stilettos, and irritating >them into fighting you (pickpocketing >them with someone who can't >pickpocket would do). > >Drazic is a moderately high level >ninja already. > >Then you can see whether auto >penetrate works well. Changing an RPC's class and then fighting him won't work: RPCs in a party and RPCs as an encounter are two entirely different things. If you don't believe that, change Vi's class to something silly - say Bishop - and then see, in the final Cosmic Circle battle, whether she fights as a Bishop or something else.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Mar-14-07, 11:58 AM (Pacific) 3. "Correct" They are a bit "beefier" when out of a party .. I suppose, so they can hold their own and not get wiped out as easily. Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Alex (Guest) (11 posts) Mar-19-07, 06:43 AM (Pacific) 4. "RE: Correct" Fair enough then I suppose you'd have to use Drazic as I think he's the only vanilla ninja you'll encounter in the game. Possibly pickpocketing badly him on your first encounter will lead to a confrontation. I don't suppose it's worth giving him high Kill % ammo since he won't use it on you later if he's a different entity when he's an encounter. Cheers for pointing that out though - I assumed rather then knew there.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

alisonb (0 posts) May-30-07, 06:25 AM (Pacific) 5. "RE: Correct" Hello again all. Been away for while; great to see interest still there. One of the "tricks" that was posted was to recruit Drazic and then dismiss him right in front of the Sorceress Queen. As long as he doesn't run off before you can buff him, he can usually wipe out all or most of that crew single-handed. I've also tried Myles after getting him up to 100 in either dex or senses(can't remember for sure which one) and dismissing him with a Theives's dagger. He turns in to a human Ginsu. I have found that if you dismiss him with 4 Thieve's daggers, he will keep one in the primary weapon slot. As far as armor class, I have been tempted to do the same thing, but starting with a Dwarf monk-switch to Lord or Val.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Avatar (86 posts) Oct-14-07, 07:52 AM (Pacific) 6. "RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around" Only improvment that I would make is instead oif Ebony mailnI would use the golden breastplate and the platinum greeves Both can be bought at ferro's   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

WizardryFan85 (1 posts) Apr-29-09, 07:05 AM (Pacific) 7. "RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around" why didn't you max out vitality to unlock it's super trait that adds +1 AC per 10 points as well??   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scary (16 posts) May-06-09, 07:23 PM (Pacific) 8. "RE: Maximum AC - Just messin around" Perhaps because it doesn't? 100 vitality unlocks ironskin, which improves damage absorption (so you take less damage from successful hits), but not AC (which makes you harder to hit, and harder for hits to penetrate and do damage).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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