"Thief not stabbing!"

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Lost Sheep (Guest) (1 posts) Jan-09-05, 08:08 AM (Pacific) "Thief not stabbing!" My thief is equipped with Light sword and thieves' dagger,he hits well enough with sword but never seems to use dagger. Relevant stats are:- level 26 strength 100 speed 89 senses 100 close combat 78 dual weapons 81 sword 81 dagger 54. Carrying capacity on white. I expect low dagger stat is because he is not using it despite it being equipped. Anyone know why please?   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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RE: Thief not stabbing!, Llevram, 09:49 AM, Jan-09-05, (1) RE: Thief not stabbing!, Lost Sheep (Guest), 11:59 AM, Jan-09-05, (2) Close enough?, Marc, 01:17 PM, Jan-09-05, (3) RE: Close enough?, alisonb (Guest), 10:58 AM, Jan-10-05, (4) RE: Close enough?, Asrial, 11:03 PM, Jan-10-05, (5) RE: Close enough?, Lost Sheep (Guest), 01:55 AM, Jan-11-05, (6) Two More Ideas, Marc, 09:22 AM, Jan-11-05, (7) RE: Two More Ideas, Lost Sheep (Guest), 03:39 AM, Jan-13-05, (8) Maybe, otter (Guest), 04:09 AM, Jan-13-05, (9) You could try, Avatar (Guest), 07:22 AM, Jan-13-05, (10) RE: You could try, Lost Sheep (Guest), 02:10 AM, Jan-14-05, (11) I'm Stumped, otter (Guest), 09:06 AM, Jan-14-05, (12)

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Llevram (5413 posts) Jan-09-05, 09:49 AM (Pacific) 1. "RE: Thief not stabbing!" You did not list Dexterity ... that (IIRC) also controls how many secondary attacks you will get (mainly along with speed). Dual weapons (and the individual weapons skills, i.e. sword, dagger, etc.) control how effective the attack is. Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lost Sheep (Guest) (1 posts) Jan-09-05, 11:59 AM (Pacific) 2. "RE: Thief not stabbing!" Thanks. Yes I missed that but I don't think it's the problem as dexterity is also 100 as befits a rogue.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Marc (109 posts) Jan-09-05, 01:17 PM (Pacific) 3. "Close enough?" Are you close enough to use the dagger? Autoswap Lock? Does it matter which slot the dagger is equiped? Just a couple of thoughts. Marc   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

alisonb (Guest) (0 posts) Jan-10-05, 10:58 AM (Pacific) 4. "RE: Close enough?" Which slot do you have the dagger in? That is key. Have Sword as primary, with dagger in slot to right. Also, if you can afford it/if they are available-I love to give Myles Bloodlust(primary) and then three Theives Daggers. As every item is cursed he "loves" them all. Or just go with all Thieves Daggers-he has truly sliced and diced his way through a whole pile of nasty Rapax with multiple attacks/swings, with the awesome daggers.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Asrial (228 posts) Jan-10-05, 11:03 PM (Pacific) 5. "RE: Close enough?" You can't swap cursed weapons (without uncursing after every swap) so you'd only need 1 or 2 daggers.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lost Sheep (Guest) (1 posts) Jan-11-05, 01:55 AM (Pacific) 6. "RE: Close enough?" Dagger is in secondary weapon slot.Thief is at front of party where samurai is reaching with his dagger.Autoswap lock is not applied. Can't figure it!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Marc (109 posts) Jan-11-05, 09:22 AM (Pacific) 7. "Two More Ideas" Being in front does not guarantee that you will be close enough. Some monsters shortest fighting range is extended and you will have to scoot up to hit them. Also, equip your PC only with the dagger and see how s/he does. Marc   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lost Sheep (Guest) (1 posts) Jan-13-05, 03:39 AM (Pacific) 8. "RE: Two More Ideas" Tried only equipping dagger in secondary weapon slot,bare hand in primary slot.This time he punched then stabbed but with light sword re-equipped no stab.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

otter (Guest) (0 posts) Jan-13-05, 04:09 AM (Pacific) 9. "Maybe" Is he killing everything so fast with *light* that there's nobody left to stab?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Avatar (Guest) (0 posts) Jan-13-05, 07:22 AM (Pacific) 10. "You could try" Putting a lesser sword with lower initative in the primary slot that should get him to stab fitst sword second.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lost Sheep (Guest) (1 posts) Jan-14-05, 02:10 AM (Pacific) 11. "RE: You could try" Further experimentation.Otter may have a good point above. However samurai with M. blade and sai when kills a monster with blade,stabs another with sai. Thief ,on other hand kills with L. sword but does not stab with dagger even when other monsters still within reach. Reluctant to equip a lesser sword having gone to much trouble to get LS!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

otter (Guest) (0 posts) Jan-14-05, 09:06 AM (Pacific) 12. "I'm Stumped" I've had plenty Rogues successfully dual-wield all combonations of swords and daggers, and the only thing i have left to think is your game's broken somehow.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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