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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-18-06, 10:54 AM (Pacific)
"Best AP Battle Generator?"
I am trying to get my current party up to level 50. (the maximum, right?) They are currently at 29 to 33. The best BG I have found so far is on the path just below the DS and Bela a little ways which is yielding an average of 1.8mm EP per battle with a high of 2.8mm EP on occasion using a party of 6 plus Vi.

Has anyone found a better place at AP for battles?

Marc

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Lady_Adrexia (332 posts) Click to EMail Lady_Adrexia Click to send private message to Lady_Adrexia Click to view user profile Click to send message via ICQ Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-18-06, 07:04 PM (Pacific)
1. "RE: Oh Goodness...Eeek"
The highest you can go is to level 50...darn...I will be lucky if I ever get that high. I have level 14/15 characters right now and cannot even fathom levels as high as you.

*faints*


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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-18-06, 07:49 PM (Pacific)
2. "No need to collapse :-)"
And there is no real "need" to be at the level I'm at now (or the one I'm trying to get to). I'm just doing it for fun and I really like the mega battles.

I have found that somewhere in the low to mid 20's is plenty.

Marc

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Llevram (5413 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-06, 08:43 AM (Pacific)
3. "What about the offspring battle?"
IIRC, a number of Rapax get spawned there. If you can engage from a distance, wait for them to spawn, draw them away and pick them off, repeat.

Seems dicey though, the one like the sea caves you told me seems an easier approach.

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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-06, 09:01 AM (Pacific)
4. "RE: What about the offspring battle?"
The BG at the sea caves I found was extraordinary for that level. I was getting 4 to 6 groups of 4 Curare Crab for about 500K each battle. IIRC

I already killed off Al-Rilk (off-spring) so that's not an option. Though that would be a decent battle at my parties level at that time. I remember that in the next game.

Magma Scorchers (2.somthing mm each) seem to be rare. I've only seen about 4 or 5 so far. I would like to figure out where they spawn most often and try to find a BG spot to duck into.

My hunt continues.

Does anyone know what the highest EP monster in the game would be?

Marc

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nomad (43 posts) Click to EMail nomad Click to send private message to nomad Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-06, 10:17 AM (Pacific)
5. "RE: What about the offspring battle?"
Looking through the monsters in MGs editor, it looks like the Magma Scorcher is the highest that made it into the game. there is a listing for Quetzalcoatl level 47 but there does not seem to be any encounters. It would be a bit tough to take out but it does have 7,538,845 experience, and HP(1010,1200)
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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-06, 02:13 PM (Pacific)
6. "RE: What about the offspring battle?"
A Quetzalcoatl huh?

The search begins....

Thanks for the info!

Marc

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Llevram (5413 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-06-06, 08:52 AM (Pacific)
7. "Meet the Elders ;-)"
I found one .. don't know about he best. If you start at the center of AP (inside the 3 gates) and head towards the offspring battle area, stop just as you come up the last rise before the battle field. Turn around and stay toward the right and you will find a small crevasse, back down the slope a little ways ... back into their and turn a bit towards the right. You should be able to see somewhat in both directions .. the way you came in (to the right) and the edge of the battle field (on the left).

I found that if I camp there, I tend to be regularly assaulted by Gazers on the left and Elders on the right (sounds like a song ). If you cast shadow hound before camping, both groups (they tend to show up together) are far enough off that you can get a round or two of buff spells off before engaging. From this spot, if you do it right (test before camping), you can also cast level 7 Elementals. This tactic works good for me as the elementals tend to head off towards one group and I tackle the other.

If you engage the gazers, the Rapax Prince (if he is still alive) tends to jump in and try to help you out ... though I have found him to be ineffective.

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myrddin (24 posts) Click to EMail myrddin Click to send private message to myrddin Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-06-06, 05:39 PM (Pacific)
8. "RE: Meet the Elders ;-)"
LAST EDITED ON Aug-06-06 AT 05:49 PM (Pacific)

About how much XP are you getting for these encounters and how often?

As far as highest XP monster in game - its the Armegazer - level 50 monster w/ 5,678,190 xp.

Im using Mad God's editor to create what basically amounts to an "Experienced Expert" game.

I'm tripling the amount of monsters that spawn in each group and for each "area" Im adding an additional really tougher monsters that have double the xp of their highest counterpart for that area, but are doubly hard to kill.

For example, for Lower Monastery Ive created Ecto Slimes, which are much harder than Emerald Slimes, higher level, and have twice as much xp.

Im hoping this mod will allow me to have a 6-char party that is capable of getting to Level 50 without having to play the game hours a day for a couple of years.

I'm even going to throw in the missing Quetzlcoatl in Ascension Peak.

I've already finished modifying the Monastery and my party is having a blast fighting off groups of 18 bats, 9 green slimes, etc.


Always remember the Tleilaxu Epigram:
Here lies a toppled god
his fall was but a small one
we did but build his pedestal
a narrow and a tall one.

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Llevram (5413 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-06-06, 06:23 PM (Pacific)
9. "Not a whole lot "
I tend to get 2-4 gazers and 2 of the wood folk (either ironwood elders or saplings). My party is only at about level 20.

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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-07-06, 09:36 AM (Pacific)
10. "RE: Meet the Elders ;-)"
My highest EP for one battle is 3.4MM each for 6 PC's + 1 RPC.

42 monsters and about 75 rounds using 6 spell casters and Vi.

Marc

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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-07-06, 09:37 AM (Pacific)
11. "RE: Meet the Elders ;-)"
Avarage is about 2.5MM EP each.

Marc

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Leon (Guest) (9 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-06, 06:50 AM (Pacific)
12. "RE: Best AP Battle Generator?"
Well, for the relatively lower-level parties, Trynton can be a good place to start. One time, my party and a squadron of Trynnie Champions faced off against almost 60 wasps of various type. The battle took a really long time, but my party survived and so did a few Champions.

Thank goodness for Ego Whip.

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Gidoza (11 posts) Click to EMail Gidoza Click to send private message to Gidoza Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Sep-14-06, 11:41 AM (Pacific)
13. "RE: Best AP Battle Generator?"
What does MM mean? Million million? I don't recall ever seeing "MM" anywhere...ever...if that's what it is, do you people know what a "trillion" is?
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Marc (109 posts) Click to EMail Marc Click to send private message to Marc Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Sep-14-06, 08:52 PM (Pacific)
14. "Just million. n/t"
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