LAST EDITED ON Mar-25-02 AT 04:26 PM (Pacific)Those tree-creatures in the Pagoda were plenty tough, but you found a way to deal with them. All of the CRPG's that I enjoy have this type of quality about them. You can learn from losing one fight what not to do and do better next time.
Dying fairly often is part of the price of being really new to the genre. That's why the first rule of gaming is Save Early, Save Often. Protect your weak PC's by using geography, formation changes, and movement.
When an area is too tough for you, go somewhere else. Have you done all of the easier stuff around Marten's Bluff and between Arnika and the Umpani Base Camp? Sounds to me as though you headed off to Bayjin a bit too soon. I'd consider that area to be a mid-level project for characters around 15th & 16th levels.
My party is slightly higher than your 12's, and I am sure I will find plenty more to do before I take them to Bayjin. If you have bought an Umpani flag for Z'Ant, you probably have met the T'Rang Samurai you can recruit, in the entry area of the mines. And you apparently missed the android near him as well? Somewhere on the Ironworks Wiz8 forum, I saw a long message thread about what RPC is willing to go where.
That forum's "Search" function is temporarily disconnected, so why don't you try searching here at Greatest RPG for threads about "assassin"? On most gaming forums such as this one, you'll find an area with general suggestions for using this type of resource, and how to get along with the others. Don't expect to change how things work to suit yourself. Answers belong inside the forum, not in direct eMail, because this is all public, and you aren't the only newby.
A truly huge percentage of other newbies are too shy or perhaps embarrassed to write and admit what they don't know, or to have knowledgable types razz them or tease them for their ignorance! Those folks are called "Lurkers" and the answers inside the forum are for them as much as for the specific person making the query.
(And for the benefit of such lurkers, yes it is true that in the earlier period of the Internet's growth, there were some juvenile types who were acting snotty toward the true greenie Newby types. That behavior is still seen some in the "newsgroup" leftovers from before the net became the web.) Gamers are pretty good about being helpful, although some such as myself will just ignore bad writers who are mangling language just to look/ sound cute, and never answer their sort at all. I was a teacher for too long to enjoy encouraging that sort of foolishness.
Kiwi- the real original one.
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