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Paul (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-05-03, 02:22 AM (Pacific) "frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" Where can I find or buy the frontier phaser and eagle eye bow? Also is the tripleshot crossbow the best bow/crossbow weapon?   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, Spence (Guest), 06:30 AM, Feb-05-03, (1) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, Paul (Guest), 06:11 PM, Feb-11-03, (4) Why blunderbuss?, Llevram, 07:30 PM, Feb-11-03, (5) RE: Why blunderbuss?, Paul (Guest), 08:05 PM, Feb-11-03, (6) Eagle eye and kills , Llevram, 08:18 PM, Feb-11-03, (7) RE: Eagle eye and kills , Dragon2k, 09:29 PM, Feb-11-03, (8) Eagle Eye Bow = 1% Kill n/t, Llevram, 08:01 AM, Feb-12-03, (10) Every little bit helps -nt, Dragon2k, 07:35 PM, Feb-12-03, (15) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, Llevram, 08:07 AM, Feb-05-03, (2) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, Wintersteel (Guest), 05:13 PM, Feb-05-03, (3) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, George (Guest), 08:18 AM, Feb-12-03, (11) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, Paul (Guest), 02:30 PM, Feb-12-03, (12) RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow, nomad, 02:35 PM, Feb-12-03, (13) hmmm, Paul (Guest), 03:05 PM, Feb-12-03, (14) RE: hmmm, Moore (Guest), 02:45 AM, Feb-13-03, (16) RE: hmmm, George (Guest), 10:54 AM, Feb-13-03, (17) Drop a portal, Llevram, 12:16 PM, Feb-13-03, (18) Strong Bow, rbrown, 12:42 PM, Feb-13-03, (19) RE: Strong Bow, nomad, 03:46 PM, Feb-13-03, (20)

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Spence (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-05-03, 06:30 AM (Pacific) 1. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" Sorry, not sure about the weapons. There is a Siege Arbalest(spelling?) cross-bow that has a big damage percentage bonus plus an initiative bonus. The biggest drawback to the triple-shot cross-bow is that it will drain a tremendous amount of Stamina. Especially when your Bow skill increases giving you an additional shot, draining even more stamina. Stamina or Rest All will have to be cast every couple of rounds to keep him/her from falling asleep. It's up to you though. With the right ammo, the triple-shot crossbow can potentially do the most damage. Spence   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Paul (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-11-03, 06:11 PM (Pacific) 4. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" So does the triple-shot crossbow drain more than 3X the stamina? If it just drains 3X the stamina then there wouldn't be a disadvantage in terms of the stamina since you are getting 3X the shots. I started a new party of 4 mook rangers, a human bard, and a faerie bishop and I'm wondering if I should recruit Madras and build up his engineering skill to get the tripleshot crossbow for my bard. For my rangers I plan to use blunderbusses.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Feb-11-03, 07:30 PM (Pacific) 5. "Why blunderbuss?" Rangers are made for bows .. and the eagle eye bow made for them. When you consider all the plusses ... +40% damage, +4 to both hit and initiative, +1% kill, +10% Eagle Eye (which helps with instant kill, right?) ... then trow in some decent ammo, like armor piercers .... I think you are better off with the bow. Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Paul (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-11-03, 08:05 PM (Pacific) 6. "RE: Why blunderbuss?" WHy does eagle eye help with instant kills? DO you mean that you'll hit more often and so indirectly get more instant kills? Anyway, you've convinced me to use Eagle Eye bows. But I think I'll use blunderbusses until I have access to Eagle Eye bows. That'll mean I'll "waste" some points on Modern Weapons though. Thanks for the tip.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Feb-11-03, 08:18 PM (Pacific) 7. "Eagle eye and kills " I thought there was more to it, thus my question above. But yes, you will be more successful in hitting and penetrating, so your chances of kills will be better. Another factor in the decision is ammo ... muchh more available for bows than the musket and blunderbuss ... besides, what serious foe uses something called a "blunderbuss" Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Dragon2k (806 posts) Feb-11-03, 09:29 PM (Pacific) 8. "RE: Eagle eye and kills " the question Llevram asked, is does Eagle eye help find the critical points in a monster's armor? obviously, Eagle Eye helps the aim, hitting more often, but does it directly help out the critical skill? and, my question, does the Eagle Eye Bow have a critical strike %? I know the arrows do, but does the bow itself have any critical stike abilities?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Feb-12-03, 08:01 AM (Pacific) 10. "Eagle Eye Bow = 1% Kill n/t" Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Dragon2k (806 posts) Feb-12-03, 07:35 PM (Pacific) 15. "Every little bit helps -nt"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Feb-05-03, 08:07 AM (Pacific) 2. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" I don't think you can buy the phaser ... you only get it through fights (ghosts in bayjin have it sometimes). Bela will sell the eagle eye bow (maybe Ferro too, not too sure). Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Wintersteel (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-05-03, 05:13 PM (Pacific) 3. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" Gadgeteers can make the triple shot bow. Equipped with lightning bolts it can be extremely deadly in the hands of a FEMALE ranger (Necklace of Stamina, females only, +1 to stamina regeneration).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

George (Guest) (18 posts) Feb-12-03, 08:18 AM (Pacific) 11. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" >Gadgeteers can make the triple shot >bow. Equipped with lightning bolts >it can be extremely deadly >in the hands of a >FEMALE ranger (Necklace of Stamina, >females only, +1 to stamina >regeneration). Yes, but how many lightning bolts are you going to find/buy? Ferro sells them rather infrequently to use in a tripleshot, though maybe in a siege arbalest... Also, the various stamina regenerative items don't make that much difference during the fight -- only afterwards. As for the earlier debate -- (a) Keep in mind that strength adds to damage from bows/xbows but not to damage from modern weapons. I generally switch my rangers to blunderbusses asap because I focus them on speed and senses first, rather than strength. My lord, on the other hand, raises strength first, and tends to stay with bow weapons (first the tripleshot and then the strong bow) throughout the game. (b) But on the other hand, if weight is a consideration, a blunderbuss and 100 bullets weighs a lot less than a tripleshot xbow and 100 hunters quarrels. Also, is it my imagination or does +10 eagle eye not seem to do *that* much? According to the breakdown on spydah.com each point of eagle eye adds .0625 each to the chance to hit and attack rating, for a total of .625 bonus. Nice, but not fantastic...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Paul (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-12-03, 02:30 PM (Pacific) 12. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" where do you find or buy the strong bow?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

nomad (43 posts) Feb-12-03, 02:35 PM (Pacific) 13. "RE: frontier phaser and eagle eye bow" but it from Ferro.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Paul (Guest) (0 posts) Feb-12-03, 03:05 PM (Pacific) 14. "hmmm" do you think the strong bow is better than the eagle eye bow? It has a higher chance to critical kill and has the same damage bonus as the eagle eye. I think the strong bow is better. The only advantage to the eagle eye is the iniative and to-hit bonuses. Thanks for the tip.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Moore (Guest) (1 posts) Feb-13-03, 02:45 AM (Pacific) 16. "RE: hmmm" I prefer siege arbalest to the triple shot. It's much more effective and it's the lightning bolts that really make the difference... if they hit the foe. To get them it's not difficult. At a later stage in the game, you tend to have lots of money (in particular if you have an alchemist or bishop, a must to make renewal potions and earn lots of coin). So you can buy the lightning bolts from Ferro, sleeping 2 times for renovation of stock. When the stock is full, just buy all the missile projectiles and drop them anywhere. It doesn't cost much and creates room for renovation of stock... including lightning bolts.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

George (Guest) (18 posts) Feb-13-03, 10:54 AM (Pacific) 17. "RE: hmmm" >I prefer siege arbalest to the >triple shot. It's much more >effective and it's the lightning >bolts that really make the >difference... if they hit the >foe. > >To get them it's not difficult. >At a later stage in >the game, you tend to >have lots of money (in >particular if you have an >alchemist or bishop, a must >to make renewal potions and >earn lots of coin). So >you can buy the lightning >bolts from Ferro, sleeping 2 >times for renovation of stock. >When the stock is full, >just buy all the missile >projectiles and drop them anywhere. >It doesn't cost much and >creates room for renovation of >stock... including lightning bolts. Maybe I just have bad luck with Ferro, but I've been very aggressive about cleaning out his inventory and camping out until he restocks, with fairly disappointing results. I was trying to stock up on mystic arrows and lightning bolts, but over the course of almost two weeks of restock cycles, I think he "only" got 150 lightning bolts and a couple hundred mystic bolts. That would be fine if I were content to sit around and keep camping, but at this point in the game that feels a bit "cheesy" even for me (and I'm usually pretty open to those things). And of course, given that my party is using omniguns, tripleshot crossbows, and strong bows, they can go through that much ammunition in just a few big battles...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5413 posts) Feb-13-03, 12:16 PM (Pacific) 18. "Drop a portal" At the point where I get to Ferro, I usually drop a portal right by him (around the corner, up on the platform is a safe place), so I can pop in anytime to replenish supplies. As for burning through Lightning bolts and such, I usually keep my ranged attackers loaded with their stock ammo (like Hunter quarrels) and a decent supply of the good stuff (like Lightning bolts). Likewise for Barbed and Viper arrows (which seem ni erady supply) versus the Mystics and Armor Piercers which are a bit harder to come buy. If I find I have an overstock situation of the good stuff (i.e. Ferro has it all the time ... and i buy it at every chance), then I will burn some of those more often. Tools for Wizardry(r) 7   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

rbrown (2 posts) Feb-13-03, 12:42 PM (Pacific) 19. "Strong Bow" Whenever someone gets hexed, their strength drops below 85 and the bow gets swapped out. They have to re-equip to use it again. I don't have that problem with the Great Bow so I usually stick with that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

nomad (43 posts) Feb-13-03, 03:46 PM (Pacific) 20. "RE: Strong Bow" Exactly why I always have characters with 105+ STR using Strong Bow. That way the Hex doesn't strip it for you.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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