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Tschordi (51 posts) Click to EMail Tschordi Click to send private message to Tschordi Click to view user profile Click to send message via ICQ Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-12-00, 03:14 AM (Pacific)
"Which ending to take.."
regarding, that i want to have the best stuff in Wiz7, which ending is the best to take?
my guess is, drop the cross, get some Diamond rings, fight Bela, to get the Cameo locket..

any suggestions?

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Llevram (5022 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-12-00, 07:35 AM (Pacific)
1. "RE: Which ending to take.."
Any ending with the Diamond ring should be a winner, since it is the only (legal) way to get all four items from the City of Sky.

But, I thought that the Ring and the Cameo Locket were mutually exclusive - you had to go for one or the other. Is that not true?

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Some Guy -ur (2 posts) Click to EMail Some%20Guy%20-ur Click to send private message to Some%20Guy%20-ur Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-12-00, 09:18 AM (Pacific)
2. "RE: Which ending to take.."
If i'm not mistaken, you can get the cameo locket with a variation of the same bug you can exploit to get 6 diamond rings. Meet Bela without enough item slots for the stuff he gives you. When it drops you into NPC mode, choose "fight." I've never actually tried this though, and I'm not sure if it gives you a different start point in Crusaders or gives the same (now illogical) opening where Bela drops you off.
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Tschordi (51 posts) Click to EMail Tschordi Click to send private message to Tschordi Click to view user profile Click to send message via ICQ Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-12-00, 10:32 AM (Pacific)
3. "RE: Which ending to take.."
thats exactly the way to do it..
but i've never tried it myself..
the question is, when I fight Bela, what will happen..

PS does the diamond ring 'vanish' when using it in the City of Sky?

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Llevram (5022 posts) Click to EMail Llevram Click to send private message to Llevram Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-12-00, 10:59 AM (Pacific)
4. "Diamond ring can 'vanish'"
It has a set number of uses, whether you "use" it, or "inkvoke" it, they count the same. And when they are used up, it is gone. I'm not sure if you can recharge it or not ... I don't think so.


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Simon -ur (2 posts) Click to EMail Simon%20-ur Click to send private message to Simon%20-ur Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-15-00, 01:51 AM (Pacific)
5. "RE: Which ending to take.."
Well I just tried that.

Dropped the cross, got diamond ring, met Bela with full inventory and answered no.

Well you do meet in NPC mode, and you can choose figt but whem you kill him you're stuck, cause you cannot pick-up the key of the stars - remember, full inventory. So you cannot "exit" ("IMPORTANT ITEM") and you cannot drop some of your stuff, or can you? So you can only reset your computer. But the cameo is there just in front of your eyes.

If you give an item to Bela to free some space, you cannot fight him, because at the moment you choose exit from the trade-give menu, he starts his speach again and as you're no longer full you don't meet him as NPC and cannot fight him.

That's just too bad.

Simon

PS: are you guys sure greater demons give anything? I've been fighting for ages, only met G.Demons 6 times, only got magic books from them. But I have a whole collection of Scarab Necklaces, PK crystal, Mempo of Death, Sacred Sleepers, Ankhs...

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Some Guy -ur (2 posts) Click to EMail Some%20Guy%20-ur Click to send private message to Some%20Guy%20-ur Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-16-00, 10:14 AM (Pacific)
6. "RE: Which ending to take.."
Simon--

I'm pretty sure once you're in NPC mode you have to go to the TRADE menu and give him some items before you fight. This should allow you to take all the goodies at the end.

As far as Greater Demons go...yeah, all the really rare weapons & stuff come from them and the Pit Fiends (which you fight if you choose the other door in the Temple). Among the good stuff I've gotten:

Excaliber (4d8 4, 4 to hit, 2-handed)
Diamond Eyes (3d4 4, 3 to hit, *great* secondary weapon)
Zatoichi Bo (3d6 6, 3 to hit, best extended weapon)
Glass Slippers (-8 feet, 99% mental resistance, women only)
Cape of Hi-Zen (for monks, -3 special armor, 1 regen)

I've also seen repeats of a few items from the Hall of the Dead (Muramasa Blade, Maenad's Lance, etc.) Had to fight a *lot* of battles to see all this stuff, and never found a real pattern for when it comes up. What I did was build my chars up to a level where they could just hack their way thru any battle (practically just holding down the enter key the whole time to have everyone Fight) and turning all sound and delays off. That way I could fight a battle, quit/nosave and re-fight without wasting more than 30 seconds or so. Good luck!

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Simon -ur (2 posts) Click to EMail Simon%20-ur Click to send private message to Simon%20-ur Click to check IP address of the poster
Feb-17-00, 00:13 AM (Pacific)
7. "The problem is when..."
you exit the trade menu, Bela automatically starts his speach again, and when he asks the question, a "yes" ends the game and a "no" gets you the key - as you're no longer full. No way to fight anymore...

Yesterday I just got into 2 consecutive fight which yielded Glass sleepers and Zatoichi bo, MIGHTY powerfull.

Simon

PS: Funny how the + (plus) don't like to make themselves seen...

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hbk21god -ur (4 posts) Click to EMail hbk21god%20-ur Click to send private message to hbk21god%20-ur Click to check IP address of the poster
Mar-21-00, 08:10 AM (Pacific)
8. "RE: Which ending to take.."
When you fight BELA what you have to do is select equip with one of your PCs. When in the equip screen drop some items that you no longer need. Then when you kill BELA you will have plenty of space to put the Fang and Cameo Locket!

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