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cwcrosby (17 posts) Apr-12-01, 10:40 PM (Pacific) "Error" I'm getting an error message other than the divide overflow when I try to play Bane of the Cosmic Forge... If I try just to run the wroot.exe file, I get: Error 60 loading overlay: WINIT If I try running the playbane.bat I get this: Error 60 loading overlay: WINITCOSMIC FORGE SYSTEM ERROR: Unknown Error - Please Report Both these message I have to run under Windows in order even to see them...if I try to drop down to DOS, it just reboots my comp when I try to run either file. If I try using Moslo and run it, it does a bit differently still, giving me a windows box titled "WROOT", and an illegal operation, details gives this: The program tried to execute an invalid instruction. Fault location: 1F6E:0100 Interrupts in service: None Anyone out there maybe have an idea what may be causing this or even how I can get around or fix it? Thanks a lot, appreciate any help that may be out there. Oh yeah, I'm on an Athlon 600MHz chip with a 1st Mainboard SD11 motherboard, using Windows 98SE, if that helps. Thanks again.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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You might try straight DOS, Llevram, 05:42 AM, Apr-13-01, (1) RE: You might try straight DOS, cwcrosby, 10:52 AM, Apr-13-01, (2) mayhaps..., ShadowCrust, 11:18 AM, Apr-13-01, (3) RE: You might try straight DOS, Lord Gram, 11:22 AM, Apr-13-01, (4) RE: Error, Nomad, 04:41 PM, Apr-13-01, (5) wroot, etc, cwcrosby, 11:31 PM, Apr-13-01, (6) Installing DOS, Llevram, 06:22 AM, Apr-14-01, (7) Well, I..., cwcrosby, 03:26 PM, Apr-14-01, (8) Cheap 486?, Llevram, 06:07 PM, Apr-14-01, (9) I might..., cwcrosby, 07:37 PM, Apr-14-01, (10) RE: TRY, Joebob, 08:05 PM, Jun-08-01, (20) RE: Error, Mirek -ur, 06:13 AM, May-02-01, (11) RE: Error, cwcrosby, 09:04 AM, May-02-01, (12) RE: Error, jlinkk, 08:48 PM, Jun-06-01, (13) RE: Error, jlinkk, 08:50 PM, Jun-06-01, (14) I doubt it has much to do with the Archives, Llevram, 09:21 PM, Jun-06-01, (15) Boat Anchors...., Lord Gram, 10:32 AM, Jun-07-01, (16) RE: Boat Anchors...., ok (Guest), 11:53 AM, Jun-07-01, (17) UWA Install tricks, Llevram, 12:55 PM, Jun-07-01, (18) RE: UWA Install tricks, jlinkk, 01:00 PM, Jun-07-01, (19) RE: Error, Joebob, 08:10 PM, Jun-08-01, (21)

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Llevram (5022 posts) Apr-13-01, 05:42 AM (Pacific) 1. "You might try straight DOS" Try booting off a boot disk, straight into DOS, instead of booting up in Windows, then running Bane in a Window. If you still have the problem there, it would sound like a "not enough memory to run this DOS application" issue, or a corrupt file. Has it worked before? Does CODS work on your machine? Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cwcrosby (17 posts) Apr-13-01, 10:52 AM (Pacific) 2. "RE: You might try straight DOS" LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-01 AT 10:54 AM (Pacific) This is the first time I've tried to run it on this computer, so haven't had it running yet. I've attempted a straight DOS boot and then run it, but it just reboots my computer, nothing about not enough memory...it's rather odd, actually. As far as CoDS goes, my copy of it that I owned(an original) ended up with some errors at one point, and the disk has since been formatted and used for other things...so I just ordered the archives and should have them in the next week or so, will find out then. hehe, long explanation on that one. I've never heard of this type of error before, and I'm starting to worry about it being my processor/motherboard or some such thing. I wouldn't *think* that it would be caused by that, but no telling. I *would* try to turn off my L1 cache, but I've never messed with that part of BIOS setup, and I wouldn't know which things to disable to do so(the problem in a different message string sounded similar to mine, though without the details I gave-the L1 cache solution sounded like it might work). Anyway, so L1 cache disable is something I'll have to wait to try until I decide that might be the only way, then I'll have to read up and figure out which of the fifty or so options(exaggerating a bit) I'll have to turn off so I don't do harm to my PC. Anyone else out there have Bane running on an Athlon processor @ 600MHz+? Thanks p.s. - I'll also be getting the archives soon, so if it's a corrupt file I'll find out(though I'd still like to get it to work before then)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

ShadowCrust (373 posts) Apr-13-01, 11:18 AM (Pacific) 3. "mayhaps..." Hi, I played Bane on a AMD 200 (well, not quite the same) and Windows 95 and encountered similar (not sure about the exact message) errors. It worked fine for me when I - prepared a boot disk with DOS 6.3 - used MoSlow at 15 % or so - turned off the mouse (put a rem-line in front of the MS mouse driver in the config.sys, that is) So I had no mouse to use (the keyboard is much faster anyway), but the sound worked very well. Hope this helps...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lord Gram (259 posts) Apr-13-01, 11:22 AM (Pacific) 4. "RE: You might try straight DOS" This might sound silly, bit some people (including myself) have forgot it before. Do you have all the patches? The verson in the UWA is the latest version of Bane. It sounds like you might need the pentium patch. Lord Gram the Light   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Nomad (513 posts) Apr-13-01, 04:41 PM (Pacific) 5. "RE: Error" Both of these errors are casued by the main Bane program not being able to find the file winit.ovr. make sure that file is available in the bane folder and that you have your bane directory specified in the working directory of the shortcut. Try this, in windows open your bane directory and double clik on wroot.exe. Bane should run but not correctly. If is does, the file is there and the problem is in the working directory specified or not specified as it may be.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cwcrosby (17 posts) Apr-13-01, 11:31 PM (Pacific) 6. "wroot, etc" LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-01 AT 00:33 AM (Pacific) Okay, lessee, will try to cover everything I have the patch for the wroot.exe file The working directory is set up properly whenever I've tried it However, I just realized it may be something extremely simple. Anyone know if Bane works properly if it's on a hard drive letter other than C:? Well, we'll see in a bit, gotta move it right quick heh ------- That didn't end up working either, so...I then tried making a boot disk, still no dice--however, the boot disk I made I just used the total reboot type DOS that's actually Windows 98 DOS. So I'm not sure if using DOS 6.22 or DOS 6.3 might work or not...I'm not sure I want to try to install DOS after I've installed 98,,, Heck, I'm not sure I *remember* how to install DOS and Windows at the same time, would probably have to go back through some of my old books and such(either that or find a program that let's one select operating system, and wouldn't ask me to erase my C drive just to install DOS). I think my head is starting to hurt...ugh(then again, maybe I just have some corrupted files, and everything will be fine when I get my new copy) If anyone has any other ideas I'm open for suggestions still, though I'm starting to wonder if it's gonna be possible. Thanks all who've responded so far, too cwc   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5022 posts) Apr-14-01, 06:22 AM (Pacific) 7. "Installing DOS" I don't think you have to, all you need is the boot files on the floppy - to play. Command.com, config.sys, autoexec.bat and the hidden sysytem files: (not sure) io.sys and something else? They (the hidden system files) will be there if you use the SYS commmand on the disk. If you do want that version of DOS on the machine, just make a directory (that is not in your normal path) and copy the old DOS to there. The boot files will still have to be on the boot disk, though, so you really don't gain much. Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cwcrosby (17 posts) Apr-14-01, 03:26 PM (Pacific) 8. "Well, I..." ...think that my original copy of bane is toast. I went ahead and attempted to install and play it on my old pentium 200 pro(which at one point in time I know I had it running fine on)... Same result, unknown error. Thanks everyone for all the feedback, guess I have to wait for the copy of the Archives that I ordered now... Then again, come to think of it, I was using Windows 95 when I had it working, not 98...guess it still might not work, but I'll keep my hopes up(otherwise it's time to go find a cheap old 486 for sale at some used computer place and buy it just for my 20 or 30 old games I still have floating around) And once again, thanks, cwc   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5022 posts) Apr-14-01, 06:07 PM (Pacific) 9. "Cheap 486?" Those things are like gold, the only thing to really run the good ole games on. And if things don't work out, let me know - I just upgraded so my old machine (was a 486/66 w 8MB, upgraded to 133mhz with 16 MB Ram) is on the chopping block (or otherwise up for sale). Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cwcrosby (17 posts) Apr-14-01, 07:37 PM (Pacific) 10. "I might..." ...end up taking you up on that offer if Bane won't run on this here 600MHz Athlon. Actually though, funny thing is, I'm about to buy a 1GHz Athlon T-Bird with 256M RAM(PC2100)...etc etc etc...for my online gaming and such. This comp I'm using now will be my wife's... A 486 DX/66 w/ 8M might be just what I want...I have M&M, M&MII, etc etc in that series...all the old bard's tale games...All those old gold box SSI games(pool of radiance etc)...and quite a few others that work on this machine but run way too fast no matter what I do. Send me an email with what kinda dollar amount ya'd be looking for. (oh, and I agree, those machines are like gold...but they're very inexpensive these days, used-which is the only thing that let's me consider it) cwc   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Joebob (212 posts) Jun-08-01, 08:05 PM (Pacific) 20. "RE: TRY" Calling some large companies, like banks, computer shops, or even Universities in the area to see if they are upgrading their comps. and if so can you pick one up off them or even buy one off them. I've gotten three that way. JB   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Mirek -ur (8 posts) May-02-01, 06:13 AM (Pacific) 11. "RE: Error" Wizardry 6 crashed on my Athlon 1Ghz, but it was not difficult to avoid the problem (... and now it works). Just switch off processor cache and second level cache in BIOS. These are two simple settings, nothing will be harmed by it (well, of course I recommed to switch cache back on when you return to working in Windows ). In the same way I was able to avoid Turbo/Borland Pascal error (divide by zero), although in that case proper patches exist. Mirek   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cwcrosby (17 posts) May-02-01, 09:04 AM (Pacific) 12. "RE: Error" Actually, I think I've figured out that my old copy of Bane is no longer amongst working programs...it has gone to the grave as it were. The final analysis was on an older Pentium Pro 200MHz (which was the last computer I successfully ran Bane on, so it should have worked). So now I'm waiting on a backordered copy of The Ultimate Wizardry Archives, and I've heard neither hide nor hair from them on when I might get the game. Thank ya for the suggestion though, I'll definitely keep it in mind if I need to use it when I get a good copy again. oh, and turning off processor cache and second level cache is probably easy, but to date that's something I've never before done, and I don't actually know which selections I need to pick under the BIOS setup...otherwise I might have tried that already, before deciding my copy was bad. Anyway, thanks again for the suggestion   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jlinkk (10 posts) Jun-06-01, 08:48 PM (Pacific) 13. "RE: Error" Ok. I just got Wiz archives in the mail today. I am unable to run Wiz 6 or 7 because of similiar reasons stated above. I also tried the boot disk to pure dos with no success. "overflow error" Here is a post I made earlier today at a different web site. I just copied and pasted it because I didnt feel like writing it again. ) "Ok, this is not working. I thought it was going good. Created a good party, got inside the dungeon, and the first fight the rats were in super fast motion. The whole fight was in super fast motion. After I beat up some rats, I went to "disk, "config, and tried to change the delay, and it crashed to my desk top. It said this program must run in msdos mode, and shut down all other programms. Ok. sure. So I run the game in msdos, the computer gos through its usual (testing system... speed compensation not needed). Then is says "playing at 87.7% of system speed... Your program caused a divide overflow error, if the problem persists contact your vendor. Then the computer exits to windows??" BTW. In pure dos mode I get the same error. "Your program caused a divide overflow error, if the problem persists contact your vendor". jlink   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jlinkk (10 posts) Jun-06-01, 08:50 PM (Pacific) 14. "RE: Error" LAST EDITED ON Jun-06-01 AT 08:52 PM (Pacific) Here is a link incase anyone is interested in seeing the whole post. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/NonCGI/Forum15/HTML/000041.html jlink   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5022 posts) Jun-06-01, 09:21 PM (Pacific) 15. "I doubt it has much to do with the Archives" This has been an ongoing problem for a lot of people with newer machines. There are two main things to be concerned with: CPU speed and available memory. Moslo (a CPU slowdown utility that comes with the archives and is on my site) should take care of the CPU speed. If it doesn't, others have gone to the drastic lengths of turning off their BIOS cache and just purchasing an old boat anchor (a 486 system). Available memory is where the boot disk comes in. It is different for each machine and depending on your operating system (like Windows 2000 - or maybe it was WindowsME, I think doesn't support the good old DOS) may or may not even be the right answer. If you have one of the good ole operating systems (Win '95 or '98), look here for some guidleines/help on creating a boot disk. The other thing that is crucial is the patch(es). (check here) Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lord Gram (259 posts) Jun-07-01, 10:32 AM (Pacific) 16. "Boat Anchors...." ...can come in handy! YOu can't keep a boat still without one, and a 486 can be fun to play with too. ANd your parents might give you there old one for free. I just can't wait for my parents to visit this summer. I need a good old gaming machine. Lord Gram the Light   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

ok (Guest) (1 posts) Jun-07-01, 11:53 AM (Pacific) 17. "RE: Boat Anchors...." Ok. Im not getting this. Sorry if this seems like a pain in the behind, but somethings dont make sense to me. I have a P1 100mhz computer w/ windows 95. I pop the cd in, on the left side all I get is wizardry 1-4 ?!? The cd menu on my old computer does not display Wiz 5,6,7,or Gold?. wtF. If I explore drive E, I can see the wizardrys are still in the folders. Why doesnt it display the installs on the cd menu? Arghh. This is getting to me now. hehe. If someone knows how to install Wiz 6, (which is the one I want to play) from its folder, please feel free to post it. ) There is a program called winstall in the bane folder which was the install program I used WAY back in the day to install the game to my 286. That program looks for a floppy in drive A:, which cant be because the game is in drive E. Stumped is just the beginning. jlink   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Llevram (5022 posts) Jun-07-01, 12:55 PM (Pacific) 18. "UWA Install tricks" Since these are DOS games, there is not much going on in the install other than: copy. So, you can explore the CD adn copy the directories you want to your hard drive - voila, you have emulated the install. As for not being able to see the whole screen, I think you need to adjust your resolution (you are probably running at 640 x 480 and it requires 800 x 600). If you couldn't install Bane, how have you been trying to play it? Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jlinkk (10 posts) Jun-07-01, 01:00 PM (Pacific) 19. "RE: UWA Install tricks" Thanks all for the suggestions. I got it working great with my PIII 500 simply by turing off the cache 1 in the bios setup. I then just used a boot disk to pure dos, typed in the commands and it fired right up ) What a circus all this was hehe,. jlink   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Joebob (212 posts) Jun-08-01, 08:10 PM (Pacific) 21. "RE: Error" LAST EDITED ON Jun-08-01 AT 08:12 PM (Pacific) Try modifing the bane.bat file so that instead of moslowix %1 (executable file name) you have: moslowiz /30 (executable file name) the %1 causes moslo to test the machine wich will give you the divide by zero error every time with a machine over about 700mhz the other way cause moslo to eat clock cycles so that you only get about 30% of the original speed. moslowiz /30 wizardry works on my pIII 733mhz overclocked to 967mhz JB   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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