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Andrew (Guest) (26 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-04-04, 08:52 PM (Pacific)
"Trading help"
I just transferred my party to Gold from Bane, after choosing the "kill Bela" ending. A walkthrough I consulted suggested that I head for New City, which I've done. Unfortunately, Paluke won't trade with me; I assume this is because I'm supposed to be allied with the T'Rang. Can anyone suggest a reasonably convenient place to trade?

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otter (Guest) (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-04-04, 10:14 PM (Pacific)
1. "Say The Word"
wow, i didn't know that. I never imported 6>7. I've always been able to trade with Paluke, (who only sells armor items). Maybe if you pick up one of his adverts somewhere and hand it to him in the negotiate window?

There's a good place to buy weapons, too, you just need the "password"--i don't remember where you're supposed to learn it, as i did once long ago and then just used it from then on:
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The advert is in the "beginner dungeon" east of town, and the word for the Argus Arms guy is Black Market.

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Kuli (210 posts) Click to EMail Kuli Click to send private message to Kuli Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-05-04, 05:28 AM (Pacific)
2. "RE: Say The Word"
I think the Munk who owns the Inn can give you this clue.
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Kuli (210 posts) Click to EMail Kuli Click to send private message to Kuli Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-05-04, 05:32 AM (Pacific)
3. "T'Rang"
Your problem is, that all the folks in new city hate the T'Rang, so for you're alligned with them, they hate you as well.

I have the same problem and no idea how to turn them friendly: I was even attacked by several townsmen, even though I've got the message in the conversation screen, that "Soandso becomes friendly".

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Andrew (Guest) (26 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-05-04, 04:46 PM (Pacific)
4. "RE: T'Rang"
Kuli, that's exactly the problem. The only people I can trade with in New City are Rulae and the magic store guy, but unfortunately they don't have much that I really need: when I transferred from Bane, most of my armor got lost in the process, so several of my guys are walking around in their skivvies. I also tried the mystery menus, but they only give me junk.
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Andrew (Guest) (26 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-09-04, 01:39 PM (Pacific)
5. "RE: T'Rang"
OK, I was hoping that this "everybody hates me" business would just be a minor annoyance with traders, but now it's affecting the path I wanted to take through the game.

Having been through Orkogre and Munkharama, I thought I'd try out Upkyr next. Of course, the Umpani attack on sight. I should have anticipated this, but it's still a disappointment. Do I have to go through the game with the Umpani as enemies (I like them more than the T'Rang), or is there anything I can do to prove my good intentions?

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otter (Guest) (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-09-04, 04:11 PM (Pacific)
6. "Time Travel is the Answer"
Don't kill Bela in W-6.
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Kuli (210 posts) Click to EMail Kuli Click to send private message to Kuli Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-11-04, 11:53 PM (Pacific)
7. "TimeMachine is broken"
Good idea, Otter, I've tested it a while ago. It's possible to load the finished game (killed Bela, entered the spaceship) and run through the temple again and take the pen. Then there is the endgame-screen with the mysterious figure of light. Unfortunately, an import of this updated endgame still starts in Nyctalinth.

My only option is to time-travel a bit further into the past, back to meeting the queen and consider to drop the cross or not.

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Andrew (Guest) (26 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-04, 06:46 PM (Pacific)
8. "RE: TimeMachine is broken"
Two questions:

Is this nonsense about permanently hostile Umpani entirely due to the fact that diplomacy is broken in Gold? In other words, if I chose the kill Bela ending in Bane, could I find a way to ally with the Umpani in Crusaders?

And, is the firearms ability also off limits to me (not that I really want it)?

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Fido (Guest) (1 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-25-04, 05:31 AM (Pacific)
9. "RE: TimeMachine is broken"
I have the same problem. Umpani in Upkyr do not give me any chance to Bribe/Peace and attack me immediately. Nevertheless I have no problem in trade with Paluke, so what's wrong and how to solve it?
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