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"Two questions about roles."

Posted by Radek on Mar-26-01 at 01:27 AM
1. All elite roles can join 2 guilds at least EXCEPT a Ranger. Ranger seems to be doomed to the Warrior Guild and nothing else. I was unsuccesful with the Temple (the Ranger knows the Vine Magic, i.e., the priest one), with the Magic Shop, Pawn Shop and Bushi Dojo. Is it a bug? Or an intention? Or the Ranger gets some other equivalent advantage?
2. The special roles. The manual hints that a Valkyrie should be a warrior, an Assassin should be some sort of a rogue and a Zenmaster should be some sort of a monk. Are the following implications required?

Warrior, Elite Warrior -> Valkyrie.
Rogue, Ninja, Bard? -> Assassin.
Monk, Ninja -> Zenmaster.

Or are they not? Can a Warlock become a Zenmaster? Can ANY elite warrior class become a Valkyrie?


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"RE: Two questions about roles."
Posted by Garion -ur on Apr-10-01 at 09:14 AM
Regarding #2:
For all I know, "all" you need to be allowed promotion to a super elite class is the membership in the appropriate guild. It's the rogue guild for the assassin obviously, but I have no clue about amazon and zen master.
The real tough part is finding and completing the "special quest". You'll have to earn yourself an assassin's dagger for example. It will be given to you by the guys from the black hand. When a thieves guild member enters the guild with it in the inventory, he may choose to become assassin.
I heard that zen master has something to do with finding tomes and you can only complete it near the end of the game.
I have no clue whatsoever about the valkyrie.
Hope somebody here does...

"Zenmaster spoiler"
Posted by Todhunter -ur on Apr-12-01 at 01:29 PM
Spoiler to become a Zenmaster:

Throughout the game, you'll find 4 Tomes of Elements (perhaps in contrast to the Evil Elements of Shurugeon Castle?). The first of these is the Tome of Fire, found in the Serpent Temple. The others you can find for yourself. You need all four to become a Zenmaster.

To become a Valkyrie, you need to find the Lich's Heart and the Black Fire. You probably are a looong way from that right now.


"RE: Zenmaster spoiler"
Posted by Lady_Adrexia on Apr-13-01 at 05:38 PM
I just finished the game the first time through and now I am trying it again for class/job differences.

I did the Liche's heart in the fire and became a Valkrie. It took awhile to figure this out...that I had to take my Warrior who did the deed into the Temple and then I would be asked to become a Valkrie.

I had all four tomes of the Elements. Who gives you the ZenMaster class...I am assuming it is the Bushi Dojo??



"RE: Zenmaster spoiler"
Posted by Nebari -ur on Apr-13-01 at 07:44 PM

>
>I had all four tomes of
>the Elements. Who gives
>you the ZenMaster class...I am
>assuming it is the Bushi
>Dojo??
>


The book says the Bushi Dojo in Brimloch Roon. Also one character must have all four tomes. If they are spread out through the party it won't work.


"RE: Zenmaster spoiler"
Posted by Lady_Adrexia on Apr-14-01 at 08:18 AM
Darn...that would have been a great role for my Priest, as she had all four books in her possession.

Oh well, I will try to get her those books this time through.



"RE: Two questions about roles."
Posted by Lady_Adrexia on Apr-20-01 at 09:59 AM
It took me awhile to find this thread, but the Ranger can also join the Theives Guild. Not sure which one...but prolly the one at Ishad'Nha.



"RE: Two questions about roles."
Posted by Lady Sinisha (Guest) on Jan-05-02 at 10:40 PM
Anyone can be any super elite class. I played solo through the game. I became an Assassin, switched to a Zen Master, then finally became a Valkyrie.

"RE: Two questions about roles."
Posted by Lady_Adrexia on Jan-08-02 at 07:39 AM
Only female characters can become a Valkrie though.

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"RE: Two questions about roles."
Posted by Miranda (Guest) on Jan-04-06 at 11:49 AM
Wow! I wouldn't try this ever... I had two wizards (but I was upgrading them like an idiot while levelling up), and I had HUGE problems e.g. with Mantraps... I can't imagine how is this possible to play solo!
But it seems it IS possible .

"MY two questions. :)"
Posted by Miranda (Guest) on Jan-04-06 at 11:56 AM
By the way. I have problems with the last Samurai Guild Quest in Ishad N'Ha. I was told to kill one guy, called Shrew Cishi or sth like that... Where the hell is he? :|
Another thing - I found a strange bug in the game (or maybe this is not a bug). I finished the Shrine of Anephas and cast the Create Portal Spell while being on the other side. Then I returned to Brimloch Roon, sold all this stuff and so on, but when I left the city, the Teleport spell simply didn't work! I tried 9 times, and each time "The spell fails"! It worked with no problems before... :/