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"Web site wonderings"

Posted by Llevram on Jul-30-01 at 05:33 PM
I was just wondering if someone out there knew how to link a database source to a web page, to make the page content dynamic. Like Apsen's Wiz 7 treasure list (link. I think it is done with ASP (Active Server Page), but beyond that I haven't a clue.

Anyone know the easy answer or of a good tutorial?

Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit


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"RE: Web site wonderings"
Posted by Lord Gram on Jul-30-01 at 08:02 PM
I know it is possible. I have several professors that do that with posting on-line grades. And we talked about it in my database class last spring, but I don't know how it can be done, just that is is possible.

Lord Gram the Light


"RE: Web site wonderings"
Posted by ShadowCrust on Jul-31-01 at 03:20 AM
Why do you think apsen's code is dynamic? I've got two indications that it's not the case: the extension of the file is plain .html (instead of .asp, .jsp, .php etc.), and for my subjective impression it loads way too fast for being connected to an external database.

As for dynamic sites, PHP seems to be the best choice for me. It's free, fairly stable and was designed to work with databases (MySQL). Besides, the language is very similar to C++. If you know C++ and SQL, you should get the hang of it in no time.

Some links:

http://www.zend.com/manual/ - the developer's manual
http://www.php.net/ - here you find it all
http://phpclasses.upperdesign.com/ - for the lazy programmers
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/programming/php/tutorials/tutorial4.html - tutorial

There's much stuff on the net, just have a look and take what you like.


"PHP vs ASP"
Posted by Llevram on Jul-31-01 at 06:08 AM
Actually, I was saying his page was not dymanic (in updatability, it is in content ). I know his is "just" hard-coded text in table entries, not running off a dynamic source (i.e. database).

Well, I don't know a thing about PHP, just that I am job hunting right now and not able to get a lot of jobs because I lack ASP experience - nobody is looking for PHP (damn that MS monopoly).

Thanks for the info, though.

Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit


"RE: PHP vs ASP"
Posted by ShadowCrust on Aug-01-01 at 01:48 AM
Actually, I was saying his page was not dymanic
I've reread it and it's a bit ambiguous

Hereabouts PHP is more wide spread than ASP. The only site I've run across using ASP was the Microsoft homepage, actually
A computer magazine (c't, I think) compared the recent script languages like Perl, PHP, ASP and JSP and PHP was considered the best by far. So when I had to learn one from scratch, I took PHP and I don't regret it. But alas, I don't have any experience with ASP, sorry to hear that it achieved monopoly status where you live.

I hope you'll find a decent job soon, though. Good luck!


"Guilty as charged"
Posted by Llevram on Aug-01-01 at 06:29 AM
(to bad we can't get MS to say that )

Ok, that is not what I wrote, but what I meant ... remember, english is my 2nd language - programming being #1

JSP is another popular one in these parts, Perl not so much (though I know a little of that from maintaining the board scripts). I may just look into PHP, since it is a web technology and a viable one - a lot of times if you can show you know something similar (and better), it can get you past the hurdle. Thanks!

And yes, a good job would be a real plus right now, since for the next 8 days I own 2 houses

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"RE: Guilty as charged"
Posted by Pred on Aug-13-01 at 09:48 AM
*Waves a little PHP flag, and a little MySQL flag*

They're all ya need. And they're FREE!

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