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"Thief not stabbing!"

Posted by Lost Sheep (Guest) on Jan-09-05 at 08:08 AM
My thief is equipped with Light sword and thieves' dagger,he hits well enough with sword but never seems to use dagger.
Relevant stats are:-
level 26
strength 100
speed 89
senses 100
close combat 78
dual weapons 81
sword 81
dagger 54.
Carrying capacity on white.
I expect low dagger stat is because he is not using it despite it being equipped.
Anyone know why please?

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"RE: Thief not stabbing!"
Posted by Llevram on Jan-09-05 at 09:49 AM
You did not list Dexterity ... that (IIRC) also controls how many secondary attacks you will get (mainly along with speed). Dual weapons (and the individual weapons skills, i.e. sword, dagger, etc.) control how effective the attack is.

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"RE: Thief not stabbing!"
Posted by Lost Sheep (Guest) on Jan-09-05 at 11:59 AM
Thanks. Yes I missed that but I don't think it's the problem as dexterity is also 100 as befits a rogue.

"Close enough?"
Posted by Marc on Jan-09-05 at 01:17 PM
Are you close enough to use the dagger?

Autoswap Lock?

Does it matter which slot the dagger is equiped?

Just a couple of thoughts.

Marc


"RE: Close enough?"
Posted by alisonb (Guest) on Jan-10-05 at 10:58 AM
Which slot do you have the dagger in? That is key. Have Sword as primary, with dagger in slot to right. Also, if you can afford it/if they are available-I love to give Myles Bloodlust(primary) and then three Theives Daggers. As every item is cursed he "loves" them all. Or just go with all Thieves Daggers-he has truly sliced and diced his way through a whole pile of nasty Rapax with multiple attacks/swings, with the awesome daggers.

"RE: Close enough?"
Posted by Asrial on Jan-10-05 at 11:03 PM
You can't swap cursed weapons (without uncursing after every swap) so you'd only need 1 or 2 daggers.

"RE: Close enough?"
Posted by Lost Sheep (Guest) on Jan-11-05 at 01:55 AM
Dagger is in secondary weapon slot.Thief is at front of party where samurai is reaching with his dagger.Autoswap lock is not applied.
Can't figure it!

"Two More Ideas"
Posted by Marc on Jan-11-05 at 09:22 AM
Being in front does not guarantee that you will be close enough. Some monsters shortest fighting range is extended and you will have to scoot up to hit them.

Also, equip your PC only with the dagger and see how s/he does.


Marc


"RE: Two More Ideas"
Posted by Lost Sheep (Guest) on Jan-13-05 at 03:39 AM
Tried only equipping dagger in secondary weapon slot,bare hand in primary slot.This time he punched then stabbed but with light sword re-equipped no stab.

"Maybe"
Posted by otter (Guest) on Jan-13-05 at 04:09 AM
Is he killing everything so fast with *light* that there's nobody left to stab?

"You could try"
Posted by Avatar (Guest) on Jan-13-05 at 07:22 AM
Putting a lesser sword with lower initative in the primary slot that should get him to stab fitst sword second.

"RE: You could try"
Posted by Lost Sheep (Guest) on Jan-14-05 at 02:10 AM
Further experimentation.Otter may have a good point above.
However samurai with M. blade and sai when kills a monster with blade,stabs another with sai.
Thief ,on other hand kills with L. sword but does not stab with dagger even when other monsters still within reach.
Reluctant to equip a lesser sword having gone to much trouble to get LS!

"I'm Stumped"
Posted by otter (Guest) on Jan-14-05 at 09:06 AM
I've had plenty Rogues successfully dual-wield all combonations of swords and daggers, and the only thing i have left to think is your game's broken somehow.