Anyone knows for sure how many ways are there to get into Marten's buff room with the IDOL? Someone posted that there is a way to access this room from the MINE??? Where the hell is the entrance to this mine?

The only way to reach Marten Idol's room is fighting the T'rangs guarding the restricted room (told to leave). I dun want the my relationship with the T'rang to turn Hostile.

Is there a way around this? Or are we suppose to get marten's Idol after all the T'rang missions(stay on their good side first?)

• RE: How to reach Marten Idol without pissing the T'rang???,frobnoid (Guest), 01:59 PM, Dec-06-01
• RE: How to reach Marten Idol without pissing the T'rang???,Cherub, 06:28 AM, Dec-07-01
  • RE: How to reach Marten Idol without pissing the T'rang???,navI (Guest), 09:16 AM, Dec-07-01
    • RE: How to reach Marten Idol without pissing the T'rang???,Cherub, 10:44 AM, Dec-07-01
      • *LOL* ,Llevram, 12:47 PM, Dec-07-01
• RE: How to reach Marten Idol without pissing the T'rang???,DRD, 06:58 PM, Dec-08-01
  • can't seem to work this out..,hairam (Guest), 11:24 AM, Dec-09-01
    • RE: idol,mmm (Guest), 12:47 PM, Dec-09-01
  • To ways to martens bluff,Llevram, 01:02 PM, Dec-09-01
    • RE: idol,mmm (Guest), 03:37 AM, Dec-10-01
      • Getting close,Llevram, 06:52 AM, Dec-10-01
        • RE: Getting close,Tiburon (Guest), 07:47 AM, Dec-10-01
          • True, hard to tell hot spots sometimes,Llevram, 09:55 PM, Dec-10-01

You can get the idol without angering the T'Rang.

There's an area called "the mines" which is east-northeast of the swamp.

You can reach the restricted area of marten's bluff through there.

if you just enter the restricted area and dont attack the sentinel (which results in being hostile to the trang) those guys attack you. and if they attack first your alignment turns to neutral. i did it this way and can do all further trang missions.

Thanx Guys, found the trail to the mines I think..Is the one with the android monk(Savant Trooper) along the way isn't it?

And stuck with a tough battle with some DreadMares....Hate those Turncoat spells they dished.

Any good way to counter TURNCOAT?

soul shield and magic screen in general

furtunately my characters are so bad that it doesnt matter on which side they fight

I know the feeling sometimes. Sane Mind (in think) will "un-turncoat". Another thing to be careful of (or use to your advantage) is insanity + turncoat.

I cast insanity and turncoat once on a group of monsters ... some of the insane turncoats eneded up attacking me

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There is a way to get past the sentinals without fighting or angering the T'Rang.

But I'm not telling how... HeHe

I have been going around Martens Bluff lower levels some time now, where is Martens Room, is it the one where I am told to leave from?... how do I get in there without killing the guards....

is it located on the table? which part of marten bluff? ( i read from someone's suggestion that it on the table but i can't find it pls help!!!!!!!!!!)

One is through the swamp to the south, directly to martens bluff. The other, also via the swamp, is to the notheast through a few more scenes, starting with the mine tunnels. If you follow those paths, you get to different parts of martens bluff and can access all you need to get to the idol, w/o killing any T'rang (if you think that is a bad thing )

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which room does the idol located?
a) around the room that has teleport?
b) around the room that has the status which fire the arrows?
or
can it sell?

The rooom with statues that fires arrows is a key. IN the next room beyond that room, to the right, there is a lever. Pulling that opens a gate/wall that leads to the idol.

That gate that opens is directly across from the elevator entrance (i.e. if you enter martens bluff, come in the "front door", walk through the glass walled elevator room adn directly out, you will face the gate (or lack of it after pulling the lever).

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The problem I had, and probably a lot of people had, is getting IN to that particular part of MB in general.

Some features outside the walls of MB are not simply eye candy...

There are a number of things I missed, like urns, pools and wells through out the game, that I just didn't mouse over, thinking they were just for looks.

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