The Retro-Dungeon (s) is (are) simply wonderful!!! I am absolutely thrilled to be going through the one near the cemetery – I even bought graph paper and I am mapping it out. Ahhhhhhh, feels almost like W7!! This game just keeps getting better.

• RE: The Retro-Dungeon (s) is (are) simply wonderful!!!,mitry (Guest), 08:04 AM, Dec-06-01
  • You weren't,Llevram, 07:48 PM, Dec-06-01
    • RE: You weren't,mitry (Guest), 09:28 AM, Dec-07-01
      • RE: You weren't,Hopefully they'll put in safeguards so that you wont be able to... (Guest), 12:31 PM, Dec-07-01
        • RE: You weren't,Jarak, 01:52 PM, Dec-07-01
          • RE: You weren't,Renssal II, 04:46 PM, Dec-07-01
        • RE: You weren't,mitry (Guest), 08:48 AM, Dec-09-01
          • RE: You weren't (Joking?),Octagon (Guest), 01:20 PM, Dec-10-01

Hmmm. Good. But pray tell: how I supposed to learn the way to this dungeon? Why I should know aboun that cornerstone and dagger?

It is just somethign to make the developers feel special

www.softwarespecialties.com Tools for Wizardry(r) 7

This dungeon is a quite stupid joke, then. Without proper mapping or at least decent possibility of light it... All that - considering you won't find anything useful there... So, I'm just waste my time with it. And my retailation will be horrible. The next time Sir-Tech make a new game, I'll pirate it first for make sure that they don't play any more of such jokes with me (for my own honest money! E )

And thats if there's even another game at all, which it doesnt seem like there will be.

Mitri, If you knew about the Wizardry series you'd understand that there was a time when the games had no automapping and if anything those dungeons you let upset you so much are an affectionate creation by the developers for the older wizfans to for old times' sake and for the extra challenge. You dont have to do them you know; the automap works in the vast majority of places so maybe youd be better off sticking to those.

One other thing. Sirtech & Sirtech Canada and thus consequently the Wizardry series, went through some pretty tough times. Wiz8 is an awesome and unique game, one of those which are truly unique and special, afloat in a sea of mediocre games and pubs and a gaming industry thats going to hell thanks to corps like Vivendi et al. Anyone who takes part in pirating games such as Wiz8 in the end only makes things that much worse for those few pubs who stand out among the shortsighted corporate trash; in the end they only do that much more to help destroy what's left of the real gaming industry...

Well said (Guest).
I champion your patience.

Furthermore, there are great items in those (multiple) dungeons, for starters a rather powerful short sword of insanity (25%).

Well... I wasn't familiar with Wizardry series before. And, when managed to get inside this dungeon, I think there would be something great... but lo. That dungeon provide me nothing but waste of time. Cruel joke from the developers. I like Sir-Tech for Realms of Arcania series and so decided to by me Wizardry 8. As a matter of fact, the game is acute disappointment for me. IMHO, ROA was much better.

As for the taking part in piracy of games... I think the piracy sometimes very useful. It allow me to value the software without needless money-wasting (demo-versions don't provide enough information for it). So, if I'll buy pirated version of any soft for $2, I can value it and decide whether I'll buy me licensed version or not. IMHO, we must vote (by our money) for those who create a proper things. Without any major bugs (like Mook hologram, speaking of W8) and 100mb patches after release. The piracy is a great help against such free-loaders.

You're kidding, right? An admitted, unrepentant software pirate calling someone else a free-loader?

*passes beer through his nose in laughter*

Please don't try and justify your activities as some sort of noble effort. You are just too cheap to buy the game. If you wanted to try it out first, buy it from an outlet that allows returns, and you can do so honestly.

But you don't. You are the freeloader. I pay higher prices for my software because of people like you.