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"Wizards & Warriors Preview at OGR"
Posted by MisterMoo on Jun-28-00 at 05:37 AM
http://www.ogr.com has posted a preview of Bradley's game (on 6/28). I'd give you the direct link, but I'm not bright enough to figure it out. Woof. Oops, I mean moo. Damn, now you all know I'm a dog...
Table of contents
- You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :),Llevram, 08:02 AM, Jun-28-00
- RE: You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :),DrSlop, 10:25 AM, Jun-28-00
- RE: You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :),Nebari -ur, 02:18 PM, Jul-09-00
- One other "funny" comment,Llevram, 07:53 AM, Jun-29-00
- RE: One other "funny" comment,Lord Gram, 05:15 PM, Jun-29-00
- RE: One other "funny" comment,mojo, 06:38 PM, Jun-29-00
- "where the Info-Age is taking us",Llevram, 09:14 PM, Jun-29-00
- RE: "where the Info-Age is taking us",mojo, 04:31 AM, Jun-30-00
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"You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :)"
Posted by Llevram on Jun-28-00 at 08:02 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 08:15 AM (Pacific)A lot of reading there, and not much of anything new, though the statement:
"In practice, movement and combat are easy enough, if not as simple as in most shooters."
Does worry me. It is not the first time I have heard the combat in this game related to a shooter.
And regarding the title of my post, just an error I caught in reading the review. At one point the reviewer called the game Wizardry & Warriors.
Nice that he was able to throw a barb Sir-techs way as well:
"Unlike Sirtech’s perennially under development Wizardry 8, though, Wizards & Warriors takes place in an entirely new milieu, a world of Bradley’s own creation, although it does have some fairly obvious ties to his earlier work."
There was actually a lot of parallel drawing, saying that this character was based on a, b and c, ... the game has bits of Wizardry, M&M, Ultima, ...
The one thing that I still find funny, is that they keep throwing out that the game has "some 300 inventory items", when Wiz 7 had over 500 (almost 600), and we complain that there weren't enough (mostly in the race/class/gender specific areas).
And for what it's worth, I just got a computer game mag yesterday that lists the "They say/We say" release dates, and they both seem to agree that this game is now coming out in Winter 2000 (not Fall 2000 as previously expected).
Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit
"RE: You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :)"
Posted by DrSlop on Jun-28-00 at 10:25 AM
I thought the parallels in the review between W&W and W7 sounded very positive -- I'm not sure how the combat can be "like a shooter" when you're controlling 6 characters, can make it turn based, can cast spells, etc. Seems to me like that statement is based entirely on the fact that its 3d. By the way, the article also mentioned that Bradley, after leaving Sir-Tech, made a game for origin called Cybermage, something or other. I've never heard of it -- anyone out there play this game?
OE
"RE: You mean "Wizardry & Warriors" :)"
Posted by Nebari -ur on Jul-09-00 at 02:18 PM
I thought most of the references to other stuff sounded pretty positive. The graphics look great. Now, if the play interface can be as simple or better than the Wizardries. Like,no need to use real time (but it is OK to have that feature for those that want it). I like the title logo too. The ampersand looks almost like an 8. Maybe an unintentional (Freudian Slip) attempt to look like Wizardry 8 at first glance. I can see it now. Is that "Wizardry 8: Warriors" or "Wizards & Wariors". Being in St. Louis where a jury just awarded hockey player Tony Twist with 24.5 million from Todd McFarland/Spawn for character defamation and unauthorized use of his name (to be appealed of course), I can see the lawyers getting rich off of this one.
"One other "funny" comment"
Posted by Llevram on Jun-29-00 at 07:53 AM
From the review mentioned in the above post:"Even on a low-end PC (Pentium II 350 with a standard TNT2) the game is smooth, presumably a result at least in part of the less than full-screen terrain window necessitated by the large interface panels."
I guess I am running on an extrememly below-end PC, only 266 Mhz 
Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit
"RE: One other "funny" comment"
Posted by Lord Gram on Jun-29-00 at 05:15 PM
Jeez...I better look into getting a new computer then! It would never do to use a low-end computer when working on a Comp. Sci. degree now would it? 
And think, only two years ago what I have now was state-of-the-art. Now it's barely worth looking at
...they better slow down this pace or American consumers will go broke trying to keep a 'decent' computer.
*sigh* Better start looking for a good job for the next school years, I'm going to need capital and a lot of it. I need to upgrade my P2-350 (and it doesn't have a video card anywhere near a TNT2!)
Lord Gram (the Light)
"RE: One other "funny" comment"
Posted by mojo on Jun-29-00 at 06:38 PM
Yeah, but what'll you do next month when we're all absoleted again? For a while now the European Union--formerly known as the European Common Market has maintained a super-computer reportedly in Switzerland. Nicknamed, oddly enuf, The Beast.And no one will eat or do business unless they take the mark of the Beast on their right hand or forehead. According to Revelations. Some maintain that would be an implanted id chip linking usto a worldwide computer system/the net/barcode scanners/etal.
Kinda makes ya wonder where the Info-Age is taking us, huh?
""where the Info-Age is taking us""
Posted by Llevram on Jun-29-00 at 09:14 PM
To 12.3 teraflops 
That is what IBMs latest supercomputer can do (teraflops being trillions of instructions per second) They figure that is more computations that a human and a calculator (apparently some archaic device) can do in 10,000 lifetimes. Oh, good.
It is about 1000 times more powerful than the 'puter that beat Kasparov ... ah, our tax dollars ($110 Million of them) hard at work
Tools for your Wizardry(r) toolkit
"RE: "where the Info-Age is taking us""
Posted by mojo on Jun-30-00 at 04:31 AM
Don'tcha get it? The gov't. doesn't think of it as our money. They think it's their money. Spend all they want/vote themselves raises/out of money? Why...just print up somemore!Mebbe it ain't the teraflops we ought'a worry about. It's the bureaucraflops. Able to screw ya 1000 x faster than the last bunch in office...